Friday, October 3, 2008
Say It Ain't So, Joe!
Ok, let me preface this by saying I understand that Palin's inexperienced behind was up against Biden, who has over 35 years of experience. Nonetheless, it does not excuse her from being ignorant of the United States Constitution and reading scripted responses. Moreso, she avoided all of the questions and redirected the discussion to oil reserves in Alaska (so?) and how much McCain is a Maverick. That's almost as bad as 50cent telling his artists to yell "G G G-Unit" one more time! What makes it even worse is the fact that her responses were ALL scripted and she still mispronounced the TALIBAN (she kept saying the Talibani) and mispronounced the name of General McKiernan (she kept saying McClellan). If you are going to be an avid defender of the war in Iraq, you should at least know the people you are defending! The video posted above echoes my personal sentiments of the Vice Presidential debate last night. As always, your feedback is very much appreciated.
Aha! The reason why Palin's responses are always scripted is because deep down, in the root of her soul, she knows she feels Obama is the better pick. After all, the idea of change is resonating through the Alaskan people.
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First of all, neither VP answered every question completely and both took the opportunities they had to speak to plug their own tickets. There is nothing wrong with that, it is just the way these debates go and have always gone. Biden wasa just as guilty as Palin when it came to dodging questions and redirecting the topic for his own gain. When asked if the Obama/Biden ticket would not be able to fulfill any of its campaign promises that it had originally made he gave a one sentece liner about how they would not be able to double foreign aid, and then went right into his own agenda. In addition Biden also had very scripted resonses, especially when it came to his initial pro-war vote becuase the Obama Biden ticket knew that would come up. And finally Biden also had trouble annonciating certain words, like characterized...does that mean he is nervous, or an idiot? No. And Palin did the same thing, she had slips, and dodged questions, and plugged her own campaign, the point is you simply can't judge a debate on these matters, but rather what the real issues are that the candidates are speaking to, and that is where the Democratic ticket falters, especially in the debate. Since you brought up oil, I will address that issue.
Lets take the windfall profits of the "Exxon Mobiles of the World". Biden says that these are getting an extra $4 billion in profits and McCain wants to keep it that way, and that money could be used to help families out and fund other programs like health care. Do you really think that these Oil companies are going to say, well I guess we are going to make less profits this year becasue Obama increased our taxes? No, they will raise their prices to offset the tax relief they had previously received, and this will put strain on even more industries that rely on Oil. So this is strictly a hidden tax for everyone to fund programs that Democrats want to fund, and the cost will fall to average americans. This is the inherent problem with Democratic Politics, more taxes and programs are hardly ever the answer.
And one last plug, I am glad that Senator Biden know without unequivocal doubt that Global Warming is 100% man-made and that there is 0% that comes from natural climate changes, because I thought that is impossible to prove.
lol@ Anonymous. I'm glad you took the time out to educate me on the McCain-Palin ticket. As a matter of fact, you delivered their policy on some issues in a more articulate manner. The truth of the matter is, I am pre-disposed to not liking Palin and I don't really agree with McCain's issues. Do I agree with all of Obama's opininons? That's up for debate. What I will say is, the issues that are essential to MY life are in conjunction with the methodology that Obama has proposed to address those issue. With that being said, we can respectfully agree to disagree.
For the record, there are 2 anonymous people. I am the one who posted earlier. But I also agree with "new" anonymous
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Fade to Black,
In your response post you said that the "issues that are essential to your life are in conjunction with the methodology that Obama has proposed". Could you please articulate on those issues, specifically what policies Obama is proposing, why they are superior to the policies of John McCain or the current policies, and how Obama will actually implement these changes? And I mean this in a completely sincere manner because I really want to hear the details of why you support Obama.
The reason this is important to me is that I have many friends and have spoken with several people, who in prior years had taken a stance of not caring about politics and not voted, but now are in support of Barak Obama. Then when I ask them to articulate specifically what Obama is proposing and why that resonates they cannot. The only thing they say is Bush sucks, Obama is going to bring "change", and that we need something differnt. Those are all very shallow points to be choosing someone to lead our country on. And in many cases when I ask further into what kind of things are important to those people, i.e. Economics, Taxes, Health Care, and their own views do not jive with Obamas own proposed policy. Basically from what I have seen, people are more enthrawled with Obama just becuase he is different and new, not becuase they truly believe in what he is going to do, simply becuase they really do not know. So please help me from making generalizations and give me the details as to why you think Obama's propositions are better than conservatives?
It doesn't get much better than this:
We cannot recall when there were lower expectations for a candidate than the ones that preceded Sarah Palin’s appearance in Thursday night’s vice-presidential debate with Joseph Biden. After a series of stumbling interviews that raised serious doubts even among conservatives about her fitness to serve as vice president, Ms. Palin had to do little more than say one or two sensible things and avoid an election-defining gaffe.
By that standard, but only by that standard, the governor of Alaska did well. But Ms. Palin never really got beyond her talking points in 90 minutes, mostly repeating clichés and tired attack lines and energetically refusing to answer far too many questions.
Senator Biden did well, avoiding one of his own infamous gaffes, while showing a clear grasp of the big picture and the details. He left Ms. Palin way behind on most issues, especially foreign policy and national security, where she just seemed lost. It was in those moments that her lack of experience — two terms as mayor of a tiny Anchorage suburb and less than two years as governor — was most painfully evident.
Asked about Israel, Ms. Palin reeled off her support for “a two-state solution, building our embassy also in Jerusalem, those things that we look forward to being able to accomplish with this peace-seeking nation.” Asked about the possible use of nuclear weapons, she declared “nuclear weaponry, of course, would be the be-all, end-all of just too many people and too many parts of our planet.” On Iraq, all she had to offer was the false accusation that Barack Obama wants to surrender.
Mr. Biden directly challenged Ms. Palin’s debate prep on Afghanistan — pointing out that the commander there had disagreed with Mr. McCain’s call for an Iraq-style “surge” in Afghanistan. Ms. Palin tried to contradict him, but the most memorable part of her answer was that she got the general’s name wrong.
One can argue (and her supporters will) that Ms. Palin is a newcomer and can’t be expected to know all of the wonkish details, that what matters is the image she projects. Except, anyone who is running for vice president in these very dangerous times needs to have detailed knowledge.
When it came to domestic issues, Ms. Palin mainly relied on enthusiasm and humor, talking about hockey moms, soccer moms and Joe Sixpack almost as often as she used the word “maverick” to describe Mr. McCain or herself.
But she offered virtually no detail — beyond the Republican mantra of tax cuts — for how she and Mr. McCain would address the financial crisis or help Americans avoid foreclosure or what programs they would cut because of the country’s disastrous fiscal problems.
Ms. Palin’s primary tactic was simply to repeat the same thing over and over: John McCain is a maverick. So is she. To stay on that course, she had to indulge in some wildly circular logic: America does not want another Washington insider. They want Mr. McCain (who has been in Congress for nearly 26 years). Ms. Palin condemned Wall Street greed and said she and Mr. McCain would “demand” strict oversight. In virtually the next breath, she said government should “get out of the way” of American business.
There were occasional, disturbing flashes of the old, pre-campaign Sarah Palin. Asked about the causes of global warming, Ms. Palin suggested that man had some role — but she wasn’t saying how much.
In the end, the debate did not change the essential truth of Ms. Palin’s candidacy: Mr. McCain made a wildly irresponsible choice that shattered the image he created for himself as the honest, seasoned, experienced man of principle and judgment. It was either an act of incredible cynicism or appallingly bad judgment.
e "bluntastic," well done.
In response to anonymous, Barack is pushing for a more "universal" health care plan that proves to be more realistic than the 5000 health credit, per family, that is proposed by McCain. BTW, he is taxing those funds. Secondly, he wants to give a tax break to the middle class (finally!), unlike McCain who wants to give a tax credit to the wealthy. Obama propoposed that he will redistribute and prioritize funding to aid with the economic crisis, McCain is pushing for freezing on ALL funding with the exception of the war. Oh yes, the war. Barack is trying to get us out, McCain is worried about looking like we are surrendering if we pull our troops out-- so in reality McCain isn't really trying to end the war. Barack Obama pushes for renewable energy such as hydropower, solar, and wind. McCain just wants to "drill, baby, drill" with his "slow on the uptake" running mate, Palin. I can go on....
But more importantly, the Obama-Biden ticket, unlike the McCain- Palin ticket, does NOT make Bush look like a Mensa <3
I haven't read this since Thursday/Fiday, but I continue to see Obama and "redistribute" and "universal" in the same sentences. It makes me laugh.
Yes, let's make the most INEFFICIENT ENTITY in the world STRONGER AND BIGGER with Obama.
And I just love the main focus on Palin. The bottom line is she is our vice president candidate and will carry forth what MCCAIN DECIDES.
I also agree with my other anonymous friend. The only reasons people have EVER given me for voting for Obama is he is different and new. Half the people in the world do not even know his views, because like Biden, McCain, and Palin, EVERYONE DODGES AND AVOIDS QUESTIONS IN THE DEBATE. I mean, I watched the same debate the other night and I dont believe either one of them answered anything, and if they did they answered questions they wanted to and knew the scripted answers. THEY BOTH DID. Biden looked on his heels the entire night, and Palin took advantage. She used stupid slogans and Hockey mom crap, but atleast she supports her own candidate. You can see in Biden's eyes that he doesnt even believe or support Obama, and I'm sure the ticket wants am as vice as a babysitter.
Also, yes lets leave Iraq in 16 months and sit down with terrorists for coffee and try to hash it out. Give me a break. All of our soldiers that have passed away have died for a reason. We are looked at as the powerful U.S. and everyone expects us to take care of their crap and when we do we are looked at as bullies. Obama doesn't even want to bring the troops HOME, he wants to send them to Afghanistan so I wish everyone would stop believing otherwise.
As far as the oil issue goes...Sure everyone loves the idea of alternative energy, but realistically it is not oing to happen soon, and in my opinion will never replace the need for oil so mark my words, if Obama wins, he will drill for oil in his 1st term, because he flip flops on every issue he ever comes across.
As for aother anonymous again, MN was Obama 52 percent, Mccain 37 percent in June, and is now closer to 49 - 45 so hopefully the rest of the country comes to their senses in the next month.
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